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Hi,
How to shift a wide table to left? I have created a table using table and tabular environment. The width of columns is fine. I also use tiny as character size to fit every thing. However, I see that the table starts from the left margin of the page but goes to the end of the page width (see below). How is it possible to make use of the left margin as well?

suppose

left margin right margin
----------> <-------------
text fits here ..................

my table starts here and ends here--------------
how to shift as follows?

my table starts here and ends here ----------------

thanks
carol

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Instead of all your descriptions you should have provided a minimal working example (MWE) because it is very difficult to figure out what you mean.

You can either turn your table with help of the rotating package or use the narrow environment which is introduced in the epslatex document (Section 23 - Wide figures, p. 90f).

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Hi Carol,

perhaps this could help: Centering wide tables or figures.

Stefan

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Finally, it was narrow environment that suited the best. However, I noticed that the table caption is not extended to the width of the table but to the width of the text paragraph. It that normal?

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I can't comprehend this issue.
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\documentclass[11pt,a4paper,english]{article}\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}\usepackage{babel}\usepackage{lmodern}\usepackage{blindtext}\parindent0em\newenvironment{narrow}[2]{%  \begin{list}{}{%    \setlength{\topsep}{0pt}%    \setlength{\leftmargin}{#1}%    \setlength{\rightmargin}{#2}%    \setlength{\listparindent}{\parindent}%    \setlength{\itemindent}{\parindent}%    \setlength{\parsep}{\parskip}%  }%  \item[]}{\end{list}}\begin{document}  \blindtext  \begin{figure}[!ht]    \begin{narrow}{-1cm}{-1cm}      \rule{\linewidth}{5cm}      \caption{\blindtext}    \end{narrow}  \end{figure}  \blindtext\end{document}

In case it doesn't work for you, provide a MWE as suggested earlier.
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1- Actually, the caption problem doesn't occur systematically. If you have a look at the attached file, the caption of the first table (table 1) is narrower than the table width (is it normal?) and narrow envir. is not used. I don't know how to adjust.

2- But if you look at the 2nd table (table 2), the caption doesn't have the same width as the table which is not normal.

3- I'd also like to know how to remove too much space between the two tables so that the table 2 will be displayed right below table 1.

To compare the width of the caption with the width of paragraph, I had put the following sentence
"Some texts are added to see how the caption is adjusted compared to the paragraphs. This is to verify on the parameters on narrow environment." but I made it as comment to show the space mentioned at point 3.
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test.tex
carol

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could the examples that I sent show the problems or should I send other examples?

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To me the situation is very clear. You do not handle the narrow environment correctly.
carol wrote:1- Actually, the caption problem doesn't occur systematically. If you have a look at the attached file, the caption of the first table (table 1) is narrower than the table width (is it normal?) and narrow envir. is not used. I don't know how to adjust. [...]

With your document class you have got certain page dimensions such as the margins hence a specific line width. The default behaviour of captions is to fill the whole line width. For the first table you have the default layout (margins, line width) and the captions fits to the margins.
carol wrote: 2- But if you look at the 2nd table (table 2), the caption doesn't have the same width as the table which is not normal. [...]

The second table including its caption is inside the narrow environment. With the given parameters you extend only the left side into the margin by half an inch. The right margin is untouched. But your table is still too wide and looms into the right margin while beginning at the newly set left side. The result is an according error message.
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Overfull \hbox (61.46605pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 38--50[][] []

And so does the caption but with a line break at the right. Compare the right margin of both captions. You should extend both margins by giving the same length in both parameters.
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\begin{narrow}{-1in}{-1in}  % Contents\end{narrow}

If you want the caption of the second table to spread only over the original line width, then don't put it inside the narrow environment. Move it outside but keep it inside the table environment.
carol wrote:3- I'd also like to know how to remove too much space between the two tables so that the table 2 will be displayed right below table 1. [...]

You can adjust some lengths to get the desired result [1]. Modify these lengths by adding the suitable lines into the preamble.

[1] TeX Frequently Asked Questions - question label "vertposfp"
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Do you advise the same page dimension definition in the \documentclass and have the captions fitting the margin or another definition so that the caption would fit the length of tables and not beyond? I don't know which one is better. The first one might be more harmonious with paragraph width but the second one might be nicer with the table width.
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My advise concerns the page dimensions as well as the look of the tables themselves. There are many possibilities for customization.

At first you should set up an appropriate type area with suitable margins. This is done best (for standard classes) with the geometry package.

The caption package allows to customize float captions in many ways. I did some modifications which you can adapt to your needs.

Concerning the tables, there is always room for improvement. I used the tabularx package to make your second table fit to the line width. The booktabs package makes tables look nicer and improves their legibility. The new narrow environment now is unnecessary.

The question for positioning of floats is answered by the optional parameters I gave to the table environments.

For all modifications see the attached file. To learn more about the used packages, refer to their manuals.
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The modified example file.
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